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  1. Anonymous

    cris carter all the way!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. remember the redskins

    2 other points in favor of Monk over Carter:

    1) If you compare each guy’s top 5 game performances in receiving yardage in both the regular season and in the playoffs, Monk sweeps each comparison, adding up to a 10-0 win for Monk. Monk’s top 2 games in yardage are actually better than anything Carter put up. In 1985, Monk had 230 yards against the Bengals and in 1984, he had 200 yards against the 49ers. Carter never got into that territory in any game.

    I figured that some folks might object, because TDs were not included in this comparison, so I did it again, using a fantasy football scoring system to rate each guy’s 5 best regular season and 5 best playoff performances. This comparison was a little closer, in that Carter’s stats actually tied Monk’s on three ocassions. The final score, though, is another Art Monk win: 7 wins, 0 losses, and 3 ties.

    2) Vikings fans tend to object to the idea that Monk should receive credit for his team’s playoff successes, insisting that “the Hall of Fame is an individual honor.” I would side with them on this if this argument actually worked out for their man. It doesn’t.

    You see, it’s not just a matter of Monk’s teams winning more often in the postseason than Carter’s (they did, Monk & ‘Skins: 10-5, Carter & Eagles/Vikings: 4-10). Those numbers only include games in which these players actually played, so Monk’s absence from some ‘Skins playoff games does not explain away the discrepancy. The facts are that Monk’s PERSONAL playoff stats are actually better than Carter’s (this is reinforced by the facts in #1 above). In fact, Monk’s personal playoff stats are better than those of Carter, Andre Reed, or Tim Brown. So it’s not just a matter of Monk playing on better teams; Monk himself actually out-performed Carter on the big stage of the NFL playoffs. When it counts.

    2a) Monk and the ‘Skins played a higher level of competition than Carter’s teams did in those playoff games in which Monk put up better numbers than Carter. Just take a look at the teams they played and what is your gut reaction? Monk and the ‘Skins were constantly facing championship-level teams who had actually won recent Super Bowls. The teams Carter and his Eagles and Vikings faced in the postseason were not nearly as impressive. I invented a stat to prove this which I won’t enumerate here, but suffice it to say, my initial impulse on this matter was bourne out by the numbers. Monk’s ‘Skins faced a much higher percentage of teams with recent championship pedigree than did Carter and his teams. In fact, the ‘Skins and Monk NEVER lost a playoff game to a team that was more than 2 years away from their closest Super Bowl victory! Meanwhile, Carter’s teams NEVER beat a team that fits this description. (Carter’s teams only won 1 road playoff game during his NFL career. Monk and the ‘Skins won 3 road playoff games. While Monk’s teams lost only 1 home playoff game, Carter’s teams dropped 4 games at home in the playoffs)

    In fact, if you average out the regular season records of the teams Monk and Carter faced in the playoffs, you will see that the overall quality of playoff foes Carter faced was much lower than those faced by Monk. Despite this, Monk’s teams won a lot more, and Monk himself put up better playoff numbers than Carter did.

    P.S.- All of the above comparisons were made WITHOUT the benefit of the valid statistical adjustment mentioned in the above article. Monk does not always need this adjustment to show his quality in relation to Carter.

  3. Jim M

    Another thought. While Jake Reed was very talented, let’s not forget that Cris Carter was the go to guy for the Vikings, whereas the Redskins had an amazing group of receivers when Monk played.

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